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		<title>By: Jardar</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-64533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jardar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William:

What you do and what you experience is more or less exactly the same as what I do and experience. Your questions are also my questions. I&#039;ve been at it for about 4 months now.

What I would answer to you, and myself, is that one must be careful not to mistake now for NOW. Enlightenment will not necessarily come NOW. But it will necessarily come now. When else could it come? If it came in the future, it would never come. The future is always in the future. The now is, as Tolle says, all there is. So if enlightenment is to happen, it must happen now. But not necessarily NOW. Does it make any sense...? Haha.

Also, this post is quite old... do you have any updates to your experiences?

@Sarah: Reading your post made me sad. In a way, that way I too feel your depression. As for the antidepressants, I don&#039;t know. I really don&#039;t. But I think they won&#039;t matter, when it comes to following Tolle&#039;s teachings: What will you do if they work? Practice presence? You don&#039;t have to be &quot;un-depressed&quot; to do that. Perhaps depression, as in Tolle&#039;s case, actually can even be better! So why not just practice presence anyways? Then it won&#039;t matter if you take the pills or not - what matters is that you&#039;re present. I too am depressed sometimes by the way, and at those times I too forget about the present, and I wallow a bit in self pity. So I understand your difficulty of course. And, that I&#039;m a hypocrite. Hopefully, what I say will bring you some comfort. Although I think it won&#039;t - Tolle&#039;s way better at saying stuff that I am, and even his words don&#039;t help. But whatever you think of my words, know that behind them lies only a wish that you will be happy. I really want you to be happy! Hehe, whoever and wherever you are...=)


@All: http://www.newrealitytransmission.com/ - let&#039;s try it?



&quot;The past is gone and the future yet to come; the eternal now is greatest gift there is. That&#039;s why it&#039;s called the present&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William:</p>
<p>What you do and what you experience is more or less exactly the same as what I do and experience. Your questions are also my questions. I&#8217;ve been at it for about 4 months now.</p>
<p>What I would answer to you, and myself, is that one must be careful not to mistake now for NOW. Enlightenment will not necessarily come NOW. But it will necessarily come now. When else could it come? If it came in the future, it would never come. The future is always in the future. The now is, as Tolle says, all there is. So if enlightenment is to happen, it must happen now. But not necessarily NOW. Does it make any sense&#8230;? Haha.</p>
<p>Also, this post is quite old&#8230; do you have any updates to your experiences?</p>
<p>@Sarah: Reading your post made me sad. In a way, that way I too feel your depression. As for the antidepressants, I don&#8217;t know. I really don&#8217;t. But I think they won&#8217;t matter, when it comes to following Tolle&#8217;s teachings: What will you do if they work? Practice presence? You don&#8217;t have to be &#8220;un-depressed&#8221; to do that. Perhaps depression, as in Tolle&#8217;s case, actually can even be better! So why not just practice presence anyways? Then it won&#8217;t matter if you take the pills or not &#8211; what matters is that you&#8217;re present. I too am depressed sometimes by the way, and at those times I too forget about the present, and I wallow a bit in self pity. So I understand your difficulty of course. And, that I&#8217;m a hypocrite. Hopefully, what I say will bring you some comfort. Although I think it won&#8217;t &#8211; Tolle&#8217;s way better at saying stuff that I am, and even his words don&#8217;t help. But whatever you think of my words, know that behind them lies only a wish that you will be happy. I really want you to be happy! Hehe, whoever and wherever you are&#8230;=)</p>
<p>@All: <a href="http://www.newrealitytransmission.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newrealitytransmission.com/</a> &#8211; let&#8217;s try it?</p>
<p>&#8220;The past is gone and the future yet to come; the eternal now is greatest gift there is. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called the present&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drago wrote, &quot;Now, it’s happening to me dozen times a day and it’s a kind of a blissful state. Buy observing my breath and voluntary control of blinking with my eyes I can easily switch into that state.&quot; 

Why does this work, is the question. So, to be merely a witness to the &quot;now&quot;, is one thing, and this is only half of the equation.  What you are doing here is combining the observing of the breath - an involuntary function, with the intentional blinking of the eyes, a voluntary function.  As yoga masters point out, one of the best ways to &quot;realize God&quot; is in witnessing the breath.  I will say that any involuntary function of the body, is in essence a function of God, in the same manner that the function of water flowing, a rock rolling down the hill, or the earth spinning on it&#039;s axis is a function of God.  For example I&#039;ve read that some believe that it is the Prana that fills the lungs, that causes us to breathe [involuntarily] rather that the lungs necessarily knowing how to breathe. By simultaneously witnessing the conscious presence of self, while being conscientious of the workings of God, in a simple and recognizable form (breathing), you manage to join the two into one single conscious point of reference.  This is a good method for awareness.  You can also add to that - awareness of the beating of the heart, or visualizing the flow of blood through the body, or just sensing every physical sensation of the body and it&#039;s place in the universe.  If you can manage to combine a few of these simultaneously, you will find yourself in a deep state of awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drago wrote, &#8220;Now, it’s happening to me dozen times a day and it’s a kind of a blissful state. Buy observing my breath and voluntary control of blinking with my eyes I can easily switch into that state.&#8221; </p>
<p>Why does this work, is the question. So, to be merely a witness to the &#8220;now&#8221;, is one thing, and this is only half of the equation.  What you are doing here is combining the observing of the breath &#8211; an involuntary function, with the intentional blinking of the eyes, a voluntary function.  As yoga masters point out, one of the best ways to &#8220;realize God&#8221; is in witnessing the breath.  I will say that any involuntary function of the body, is in essence a function of God, in the same manner that the function of water flowing, a rock rolling down the hill, or the earth spinning on it&#8217;s axis is a function of God.  For example I&#8217;ve read that some believe that it is the Prana that fills the lungs, that causes us to breathe [involuntarily] rather that the lungs necessarily knowing how to breathe. By simultaneously witnessing the conscious presence of self, while being conscientious of the workings of God, in a simple and recognizable form (breathing), you manage to join the two into one single conscious point of reference.  This is a good method for awareness.  You can also add to that &#8211; awareness of the beating of the heart, or visualizing the flow of blood through the body, or just sensing every physical sensation of the body and it&#8217;s place in the universe.  If you can manage to combine a few of these simultaneously, you will find yourself in a deep state of awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Dales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Dales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these are all really good suggestions. I am aware that conciously &quot;looking&quot; through my eyes, while being aware of how relaxed my body does help with getting out of my head. maybe, you&#039;ve identified with &quot;your&quot; mind being a &quot;problem&quot; and making it a part of you that you have to fix. when it comes to being in the now it is simple. use your 5 senses (listening to the outside world helps me into the now the most). remember to rest and relax into your body and being. I&#039;ve noticed in myself that  Ipractice the now to get into a enlightened state for the future. this does NOT work. be in the now because it is the now.

good luck WIlliam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these are all really good suggestions. I am aware that conciously &#8220;looking&#8221; through my eyes, while being aware of how relaxed my body does help with getting out of my head. maybe, you&#8217;ve identified with &#8220;your&#8221; mind being a &#8220;problem&#8221; and making it a part of you that you have to fix. when it comes to being in the now it is simple. use your 5 senses (listening to the outside world helps me into the now the most). remember to rest and relax into your body and being. I&#8217;ve noticed in myself that  Ipractice the now to get into a enlightened state for the future. this does NOT work. be in the now because it is the now.</p>
<p>good luck WIlliam</p>
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		<title>By: Svein Olav Nyberg</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60673</link>
		<dc:creator>Svein Olav Nyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dogensangha.org/video.htm Gudo is always nice to listen to.

Aside from that, have you ever tried to stop a sentence from your inner words-stream like snipping it with scissors, only to realize that you are already and instantly aware of the completion? Try shifting to becoming aware of the pre-sentence &quot;immediate sentence&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dogensangha.org/video.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogensangha.org/video.htm</a> Gudo is always nice to listen to.</p>
<p>Aside from that, have you ever tried to stop a sentence from your inner words-stream like snipping it with scissors, only to realize that you are already and instantly aware of the completion? Try shifting to becoming aware of the pre-sentence &#8220;immediate sentence&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60627</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What to say about Eckhart Tolle and his methods.  

Okay, so here is someone who experienced bliss via personal trauma (or anxiety) and decided that the best method to try to capture or re-capture that state of awareness was to artificially challenge the conscious mind in to believing that it is always in a state of awareness.  

This method of consciously telling oneself to always be present in the &quot;Now&quot; requires a lot of attention of the mind, and can cause a lot of anxiety and frustration to those who are willing to undertake the constant challenges that the mind must endure.  This method also creates a paradox in the mind, whereby the one seeking to attain awareness, will never be able to maintain that awareness, because the method for attainment is so similar to the desired outcome, that the mind never knows when to turn off the process. The mind is constantly inquiring itself of the question, &quot;are we there yet?&quot;, and the best that can ever be realized is a brief glimpse of what awareness is.

I&#039;ve experienced extended moments of Bliss, and it is truly enjoyable state to be in, especially when you can continue to consciously perform your daily job or function.  I wouldn&#039;t even call it the power of Now, when I consider that my mind is totally and completely aware of everything around me, even the words that are about to be spoke from my mouth before my conscious mind has even thought of what I&#039;m about to say. Same goes for the mind, when your super-conscious mind is a half seconds ahead of your counscious mind, it is truly bizarre, and intoxicating. I guess you could call it the power of what&#039;s about to become. 

Next post I will explain a better method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What to say about Eckhart Tolle and his methods.  </p>
<p>Okay, so here is someone who experienced bliss via personal trauma (or anxiety) and decided that the best method to try to capture or re-capture that state of awareness was to artificially challenge the conscious mind in to believing that it is always in a state of awareness.  </p>
<p>This method of consciously telling oneself to always be present in the &#8220;Now&#8221; requires a lot of attention of the mind, and can cause a lot of anxiety and frustration to those who are willing to undertake the constant challenges that the mind must endure.  This method also creates a paradox in the mind, whereby the one seeking to attain awareness, will never be able to maintain that awareness, because the method for attainment is so similar to the desired outcome, that the mind never knows when to turn off the process. The mind is constantly inquiring itself of the question, &#8220;are we there yet?&#8221;, and the best that can ever be realized is a brief glimpse of what awareness is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced extended moments of Bliss, and it is truly enjoyable state to be in, especially when you can continue to consciously perform your daily job or function.  I wouldn&#8217;t even call it the power of Now, when I consider that my mind is totally and completely aware of everything around me, even the words that are about to be spoke from my mouth before my conscious mind has even thought of what I&#8217;m about to say. Same goes for the mind, when your super-conscious mind is a half seconds ahead of your counscious mind, it is truly bizarre, and intoxicating. I guess you could call it the power of what&#8217;s about to become. </p>
<p>Next post I will explain a better method.</p>
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		<title>By: Drago Plecko, M.Sci.</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60619</link>
		<dc:creator>Drago Plecko, M.Sci.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir, 
I am meditating for 35 yrs., basically it&#039;s Surat Shabd Yoga. Last 3 yrs., occasionally was applying Eckhart Tolle&#039;s principles of perceiving the emotion on the level of physical sensation. It did work and then, suddenly, started noticing that sometimes I can perceive, feel, the colors on that level of physical sensation. They came with a incredibly fast train of thoughts which were there all at the same time, so to speak. Gradually, my perception of colors in Nature became somehow sharpened. And, they always turned into bodily feelings. After 10 months, sometimes the whole outer scenery, literally everything I saw in front of me became one, single bodily sensation. Not an ordinary one, but meaningful and somehow full. Is it possible that the whole World can be experienced on the level of feeling or sensation? Now, it&#039;s hapening to me dozen times a day and it&#039;s a kind of a blissful state. Buy observing my breath and voluntary control of blinking with my eyes I can easily switch into that state. 
Tried to get in touch with Mr Tolle and get the answer what&#039;s that all about because nothing like that is found in his books. Never made it.
Can you be of some help and get him this mail or do you yourself have any idea what&#039;s that all about?
Thans a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir,<br />
I am meditating for 35 yrs., basically it&#8217;s Surat Shabd Yoga. Last 3 yrs., occasionally was applying Eckhart Tolle&#8217;s principles of perceiving the emotion on the level of physical sensation. It did work and then, suddenly, started noticing that sometimes I can perceive, feel, the colors on that level of physical sensation. They came with a incredibly fast train of thoughts which were there all at the same time, so to speak. Gradually, my perception of colors in Nature became somehow sharpened. And, they always turned into bodily feelings. After 10 months, sometimes the whole outer scenery, literally everything I saw in front of me became one, single bodily sensation. Not an ordinary one, but meaningful and somehow full. Is it possible that the whole World can be experienced on the level of feeling or sensation? Now, it&#8217;s hapening to me dozen times a day and it&#8217;s a kind of a blissful state. Buy observing my breath and voluntary control of blinking with my eyes I can easily switch into that state.<br />
Tried to get in touch with Mr Tolle and get the answer what&#8217;s that all about because nothing like that is found in his books. Never made it.<br />
Can you be of some help and get him this mail or do you yourself have any idea what&#8217;s that all about?<br />
Thans a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60552</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I&#039;m glad to see someone else is wondering about the anti-depressants and that the answer seems to be &#039;go for it&#039;... 

I have been depressed for years but recently got into eckharts teachings and experience being in the now most of the time now, my ego is successfully being watched nearly all the time and I take full responsibility for all of my actions, situations in my life without ever blaming others or my life situation however I have also noticed that since I now understand my meaning the physical aspects of my depression still appear (crying uncontrollably sometimes and feeling immense sadness throughout) and I cant seem to shift it completely yet and have finally came around to idea of anti depressants to help me along, but obviously had some questions regarding whether or not it was justifiable because surely if I am doing things right I should be able to just kick my pain body to the curb...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I&#8217;m glad to see someone else is wondering about the anti-depressants and that the answer seems to be &#8216;go for it&#8217;&#8230; </p>
<p>I have been depressed for years but recently got into eckharts teachings and experience being in the now most of the time now, my ego is successfully being watched nearly all the time and I take full responsibility for all of my actions, situations in my life without ever blaming others or my life situation however I have also noticed that since I now understand my meaning the physical aspects of my depression still appear (crying uncontrollably sometimes and feeling immense sadness throughout) and I cant seem to shift it completely yet and have finally came around to idea of anti depressants to help me along, but obviously had some questions regarding whether or not it was justifiable because surely if I am doing things right I should be able to just kick my pain body to the curb&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elm Tree</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60460</link>
		<dc:creator>Elm Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I posted part of this comment on another person&#039;s blog:

I personally believe, he&#039;s taking a lot of decent Eastern notions and articulating them fairly well.

HOWEVER, he often cheats. He&#039;s very black and white about things. For instance, he seems to suggest that one is either experiencing the now for stretches at a time, and doing well for themselves, or not, and worried about the past or future.

Now most seasoned meditators will admit that over-time one can have greater peace by being more present here and now. But even after years of experience, the mind will still drift into trying to mentally rewrite the past or script out the future (ie. &quot;That&#039;s what I should have said to that bloke.&quot;). So, while I believe he&#039;s right in saying we spend too much time in the worries of the past and future, I don&#039;t believe one can, in a short time, be extremely proficient at being more in the now. It&#039;s a process, a journey, that he neglects to own up to. 

That&#039;s what I posted.  I would like to add, that you won&#039;t get rid of your thoughts, you will just not travel with them.  There&#039;s a saying that thoughts are like buses trying to pick you up.  It&#039;s okay that they arrive at your stop, but just don&#039;t get on them.  Let them go.  Your mind will not stop thinking.  Relax a little more, you are more than likely very present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I posted part of this comment on another person&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p>I personally believe, he&#8217;s taking a lot of decent Eastern notions and articulating them fairly well.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, he often cheats. He&#8217;s very black and white about things. For instance, he seems to suggest that one is either experiencing the now for stretches at a time, and doing well for themselves, or not, and worried about the past or future.</p>
<p>Now most seasoned meditators will admit that over-time one can have greater peace by being more present here and now. But even after years of experience, the mind will still drift into trying to mentally rewrite the past or script out the future (ie. &#8220;That&#8217;s what I should have said to that bloke.&#8221;). So, while I believe he&#8217;s right in saying we spend too much time in the worries of the past and future, I don&#8217;t believe one can, in a short time, be extremely proficient at being more in the now. It&#8217;s a process, a journey, that he neglects to own up to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I posted.  I would like to add, that you won&#8217;t get rid of your thoughts, you will just not travel with them.  There&#8217;s a saying that thoughts are like buses trying to pick you up.  It&#8217;s okay that they arrive at your stop, but just don&#8217;t get on them.  Let them go.  Your mind will not stop thinking.  Relax a little more, you are more than likely very present.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Zader</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/380.php#comment-60210</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Zader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pandy:  Yes, certainly interesting.  And possibly psychotic!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pandy:  Yes, certainly interesting.  And possibly psychotic!  <img src='http://www.muditajournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the middle of The Power of Now&#039;, and am also reading an article in Discover mag. about Big Bang theories.  Julian Barbour writes about &#039;time&#039; as a collection of &#039;nows&#039; which can be thought of as&quot;pages of a novel ripped from the spine of the book, and tossed randomly on the floor.  Each page is a separate entity.  Arranging the pages in an order makes it seem as if a story is unfolding, but, still each page is independent.&quot;

Isn&#039;t that interesting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the middle of The Power of Now&#8217;, and am also reading an article in Discover mag. about Big Bang theories.  Julian Barbour writes about &#8216;time&#8217; as a collection of &#8216;nows&#8217; which can be thought of as&#8221;pages of a novel ripped from the spine of the book, and tossed randomly on the floor.  Each page is a separate entity.  Arranging the pages in an order makes it seem as if a story is unfolding, but, still each page is independent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that interesting?</p>
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