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	<title>Comments on: Mind Identification</title>
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		<title>By: areti</title>
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		<dc:creator>areti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
What is this mind that is identified with and what but a mind can be identified with it? 

Always when the you (nothing more than a collection of ideas and memories) is thinking that you are an identity with will and voilition, there is a knowing that this is happening - there is an observing - so &#039;who&#039; or &#039;what&#039; is the observer of this. Who or what is the observer of the activities of the mind. 

You don&#039;t have to be thinking for the knowing of presence to be there - you are present before you have this thought &#039;I&#039;, and you don&#039;t have to go around saying &#039;I am, I am,&#039; to know of this presence. 

There&#039;s some terrific free podcasts on urbangurucafe.com if what I have written rings true for anyone - if anything will end your seeking, the podcasts on this site surely will. It is the same stuff Eckhart is speaking of - being here in the present (can you be anywhere else? - just try and leap out of the present moment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
What is this mind that is identified with and what but a mind can be identified with it? </p>
<p>Always when the you (nothing more than a collection of ideas and memories) is thinking that you are an identity with will and voilition, there is a knowing that this is happening &#8211; there is an observing &#8211; so &#8216;who&#8217; or &#8216;what&#8217; is the observer of this. Who or what is the observer of the activities of the mind. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be thinking for the knowing of presence to be there &#8211; you are present before you have this thought &#8216;I&#8217;, and you don&#8217;t have to go around saying &#8216;I am, I am,&#8217; to know of this presence. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s some terrific free podcasts on urbangurucafe.com if what I have written rings true for anyone &#8211; if anything will end your seeking, the podcasts on this site surely will. It is the same stuff Eckhart is speaking of &#8211; being here in the present (can you be anywhere else? &#8211; just try and leap out of the present moment).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.muditajournal.com/archives/157.php#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh

Comparing my own observations of myself with what you have said, I agree that it is our &#039;felt&#039; sense of self that identifies with mental constructs. So, we can either have our &#039;felt&#039; sense of self here and now &#039;feeling&#039; NOW or we can bodily be here, but our &#039;felt&#039; sense of self could be utterly out of the moment.
With practice I have strengthened my own ability to draw my presence from the mind to the here and NOW and I am just beginning to realise how useful &#039;feeling the inner-body&#039; can be, both for keeping energy from going up into the mind, and as a portal to what &#039;is&#039; going on NOW. And as a side note I have observed that through many years of unconcious identification, there are some places and activites that my &#039;unconcious&#039; patterns prefer, (like certain organisims grow and feed in preferred conditions) lying in bed or bathing are good example, as these are places where I switch off from my body, in order to relax. 
Anyway.
Good Health to you.
Chris Kelly. England


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh</p>
<p>Comparing my own observations of myself with what you have said, I agree that it is our &#8216;felt&#8217; sense of self that identifies with mental constructs. So, we can either have our &#8216;felt&#8217; sense of self here and now &#8216;feeling&#8217; NOW or we can bodily be here, but our &#8216;felt&#8217; sense of self could be utterly out of the moment.<br />
With practice I have strengthened my own ability to draw my presence from the mind to the here and NOW and I am just beginning to realise how useful &#8216;feeling the inner-body&#8217; can be, both for keeping energy from going up into the mind, and as a portal to what &#8216;is&#8217; going on NOW. And as a side note I have observed that through many years of unconcious identification, there are some places and activites that my &#8216;unconcious&#8217; patterns prefer, (like certain organisims grow and feed in preferred conditions) lying in bed or bathing are good example, as these are places where I switch off from my body, in order to relax.<br />
Anyway.<br />
Good Health to you.<br />
Chris Kelly. England</p>
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